Wednesday, May 17, 2017

Mihai Sorohan Choir




Vowel Ensemble Choir for SFZ

The internet has allowed for collaborations across time and distance. 

Seven years ago this thread appeared on KVR.  Mihai Sorohan and his friends and family had created an ensemble vowel choir. I'd happily downloaded it much later and made myself my own little Kontakt version because that's what I do. Over at Scoring Central (run by the guy who created the Sonatina Orchestra) where I hang out with friends and musically gifted AIs, someone asked about free choirs and mentioned this free ensemble. Somewhere someone mentioned that it was nice but it would be nice if it sounded fuller this reminded me of the Kontakt script J's Ensemble Maker created by Jay Bacal over a decade ago. This script can multiply solo instruments by up to seven through Digital Wizardy understood by about a dozen Kontakt scripting pros in the world. So after finding a public domain piece of clipart and using the freeware GIMP graphic editor to fake a woodburned GUI look, out came the Kontakt instrument.

But folks on VSR and SC wanted an SFZ version and I don't know how to do that. Fortunately Sam Gossner the headman at Versilian Studios (the guys behind the VSCO2 Orchestra) has created and given away a free folder-to-SFZ converter and made a nice video on how to use it. So after a bit of confusion and renaming 110 files I was ready to send out the SFZ version. I just wished I knew how to make a ketswitched patch for it, but hey you can't have everything right? Then into my inbox comes a full keyswitched version from Pytchblend from KVR. And that is how using freeware, samples and help from friends a free choir is put up on a blog.

From Mihai's blog...

"The choir patch was developed by Mihai Sorohan together with Richard Osborn for Mu.Lab Multisampla and Selcuk Bor (from Symphony of Specters) for Kontakt.
 

Choir: Citrina - soprano & alto, Jelena - alto,Roman & Dimitri (Timohi) - tenor, Jonny Zed - tenor, Mihai - tenor & baritone"

Also from Mihai's blog are the conditions for use...

"By downloading the provided files you accept the following terms:
  • You get a personal non-exclusive non-transferable right to use the sample content as an integral part of your musical composition, in combination with other sounds, for both personal and commercial purpose. You may not use it for commercial sample libraries (put it on a CD and sell it, sell it online, etc) 
  • You may use the sample content as an integral part of your musical composition, in combination with other sounds, for both personal and commercial purpose. 
  • I don't accept any responsibility for any damage, loss, liability, injury or upset caused to or suffered by you as a result of misusing this material. "


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32 comments:

  1. AnonymousMay 30, 2017 at 3:44 AM

    Nick, I just downloaded bureu organs and st. augustine organs and loaded them up on my Kontakt 5.6.8 and it keeps on loading them as demo versions. What's happening here?

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    1. bigcatMay 30, 2017 at 6:19 AM

      Well that is certainly disturbing. I'll ask on the NI forums and see if anyone else is having this problem. I know NI is integrating Native Access into 5.6.8 and some people are having issues with libraries not registering correctly.

      They should certainly be working correctly in the full version of Kontakt and not showing up in demo mode.

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    2. bigcatMay 30, 2017 at 9:57 AM

      Evil Dragon a mod for NI (and brilliant coder) said this on the NI forums...
      "There are two possibilities:
      1. The NKI was opened with Kontakt Player, not Kontakt full
      2. User has hacked into the Libraries tab creating a "Kontakt Player" library that is not supposed to exist, and 5.6.8. makes this less feasible/possible because Native Access is in control now. "

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  2. AnonymousJune 4, 2017 at 1:10 AM

    Joe, similar problem here,I have the full version of Kontakt but I can't seem to import my St. Augstine Organ into my Quickload menu. I have the latest version of Kontakt.

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    1. bigcatJune 5, 2017 at 6:34 PM

      Hum I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't dared update to the new version yet. You might trying asking about it on the NI forums. They have pretty good mods over there including Evil Dragon.

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  3. UnknownJune 11, 2017 at 4:52 PM

    Regarding the SFZ version of that Choir set: When I load it into my sforzando application, it keeps reporting a "not found" error for all the wav files! Any idea what's gone wrong there?

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    1. bigcatJune 12, 2017 at 12:47 PM

      Replace the Choir Keyswitch.sfz with this one and see if that fixes it if you would.
      http://www.mediafire.com/file/yjf4c5mwmwcbw1l/Choir_Keyswitch.sfz

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    2. UnknownJune 12, 2017 at 1:02 PM

      Thanks, but unfortunately that didn't make any differernce, sorry to say.

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    3. bigcatJune 12, 2017 at 2:46 PM

      I'm not sure what to say. It seems to work fine in using Studio 1 on a Win 64 machine. As long as the subfolders are the same as they are in the zip file and sfz files are in the base directory, the samples should be easily found.
      The sfz has "default_path=\choir Ah samples\" so it should just look for a 'choir Ah samples' subdirectory and find the samples there.

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    4. UnknownJuly 16, 2017 at 10:03 AM

      That's just it, absolutely none of my existing sfz sets are using this "default" scheme that you talk of there. Maybe that method simply isn't recognised by my Sforzando application?

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  4. UnknownJuly 19, 2017 at 3:37 PM

    Right, I've been asking around in other places, and the source of the problem has been found: It all came down to a certain "backslash" entry that was confusing my Mac version of the sfz player (Mac doesn't really use the backslash to signify location hierarchy like the PC apparently does). So once I simply removed the first instance of that character in each of the sfz files, they all worked like a charm.
    I just thought for the benefit of others to share this here in case it helps others or to at least close the subject.

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  5. David YMay 11, 2018 at 5:08 AM

    Hi Bigcat,
    Just thought I'd feedback on an issue I found when trying to use the .SFZ files in Musescore (on Windows).
    Musescore includes a Soundfont player called Zerberus, but it turns out that this player doesn't like higher sample rates in the .WAV files. I would get silence when playing the notes.
    However using Audacity to import the .WAVs and export them again (which has the effect of converting to 16-bit 44.1 kHz) seemed to make them playable.
    Thought I would share in case someone else comes across the same issue.
    Best wishes,
    David Y

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